Donnie & Dhali: Rick Dhaliwal, Don Taylor, and Ryan Henderson discuss about what the Vancouver Canucks gave as much as purchase Elias Lindholm and if they need to attempt to prolong him regardless of issues not going close to the best way that they had thought it might.
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Taylor: “There’s course far more to this commerce than simply Andrei Kuzmenko. The Canucks giving up Jani Jarmo. They signed him to a contract.”
Dhaliwal: “Calgary did.”
Taylor: “Yeah, the Flames did. Hunter Brzustewicz, similar factor. They signed him, signed him to an entry degree deal. You then’ve obtained these two draft picks arising.”
Dhaliwal: “A primary rounder Don.”
Taylor: “A primary-rounder and a fourth-rounder, and then you definately take a look at the best way Kuzmenko’s taking part in. And right here’s a query for you, simply how unhealthy was Kuzmenko defensively for Rick Tocchet and the Canucks to surrender on him.”
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Dhaliwal: “Quit on him. And there’s that participant coach relationship. Some gamers and coaches simply don’t see eye to eye. These two didn’t see eye to eye. That’s why he’s out.
The opposite factor about this commerce Don, it may find yourself being a rental. It may very well be find yourself, if you happen to don’t re-sign him you gave up.”
Taylor: “When you don’t, they’re going to re-sign Lindholm? Please.”
Dhaliwal: “Hey, Donnie, Donnie, if he is available in and, he rejected $8, $9 million a yr in September in Calgary. He’s not getting that in the marketplace and particularly if this wrist damage lingers for weeks and weeks after the season. He might need a troublesome time on July 1st, Lindholm.
This is likely to be a rental Don. You gave up all that for a rental.
Taylor: “It is likely to be? Yeah, however that, that was, that was, that’s the chance stepping into. You knew that with this commerce and the thought is, ‘hey, it is a now commerce. What can he do for us for the remainder of the common season and into the playoffs?’
And thus far prefer it with all due respect, there hasn’t been a lot there?”
Dhaliwal: “No.”
Taylor: “Within the face offs? Nice, you understand, however extra was anticipated, proper?”
Dhaliwal: “Sure. And now the Canucks are able the place they don’t have a primary, they don’t have a second. And in the event that they make the, what’s it the Western Convention Closing it turns into the third. So now there’s a chance that you simply won’t have picks in rounds, one, two and three this summer time, Don.”
Taylor: “However you say there’s a chance it’s a rental. Like what would the response be on this city?”
Dhaliwal: “When you get them low cost, there’s your centerman. You’re sturdy up the center Don. I’m positive they’re gonna sit down and discuss with Lindholm’s agent and say, ‘hey, hey, buddy. What would you like in the marketplace?’ You recognize, I imply, if you happen to get them low cost, Don, you’re gonna be tremendous sturdy up …”
Taylor: “What can be low cost after him turning down $8 million?”
Dhaliwal: “Properly, you higher get them within the fours. I’ll inform you if you may get them within the 4.”
Taylor: “Are you able to think about? Oops”
Dhaliwal: “Are you able to think about? Oops, I rejected eight now I’m all the way down to 4. I don’t know. I’m guessing, I’m guessing by the best way.”
Ryan Henderson: “So there’s caveats to this that have to be talked about.”
Dhaliwal: “What?”
Henderson: “Kuzmenko was in Tocchet’s doghouse. You’ll be able to criticize speaking in order for you.
Didn’t you Rick have some questions on Brzustewicz signing right here in Vancouver? Wasn’t there discuss that, or was he all the time gonna?”
Dhaliwal: “He was gonna, the story that Brzustewicz was not going to signal a Vancouver is I’m going to name BS.”
Henderson: “Okay.”
Dhaliwal: “That man, that they had been negotiating with Brzustewicz for months and months…”
Henderson: “However he wasn’t signed.”
Dhaliwal: “They have been going to do it in March is what, the best way I used to be advised by sure folks of their camp, that there was no situation signing in Vancouver.”
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Taylor: “However you say, like, you understand, re-signing Lindholm. What …”
Dhaliwal: “You bought to consider it, Don. You gave up a lot for him – first-rounder, a third-rounder presumably, a prospect, two prospects. And you bought to consider re-signing the man.”
Taylor: “What number of occasions does that occur? After which secondly, what would the response be in Canuck nation in the event that they re-upped Lindholm. In the event that they prolonged Lindholm and did, and obtained, and misplaced Dakota Joshua.”
Dhaliwal: “Yeah.”
Taylor: “Since you gave that cash. So that you’re agreeing with me?”
Gave that cash to Lidholm. Nothing for Joshua. Goodbye.”
Dhaliwal: “When you get a sweetheart deal on Lindholm, you attempt to re-sign him. If he needs need $5, $6, $7 million.”
Taylor: “Versus Joshua.”
Dhaliwal: “Hey, if he needs need $5, $6, $7 million. Drive him to the airport.”
Henderson: “However what you simply stated, was one of many issues of the Jim Benning period right here, which was, Benning hardly ever recognized a mistake and tried his finest to get out of the error. He simply stored doubling, doubling down.”
Dhaliwal: “Benning’s drawback was July 1st. It killed him.”
Henderson: “However I’m saying, he’s gonna say, ‘hey, we now have to signal Lindholm due to what we gave up.’ You’ll be able to admit a mistake and you may say hey…”
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Dhaliwal: “So your proper now strolling away from Lindholm.”
Henderson: “Sure.”
Taylor: “Versus different, different free brokers they’ve.”
Dhaliwal: “I say if you happen to get him low cost to carry, you’d be sturdy up the center of the ice Don. The factors aren’t there. He’s a great face off man. He’s good defensively.”
Taylor: “However Rick, they’ve obtained (Elias) Pettersson up the center. They’ve obtained (J.T.) Miller up the center. So Lindholm is a bottom-six man. You’re gonna pay him what?”
Dhaliwal: “And right here’s your different drawback. Teddy Blueger’s a UFA. They’re not so far as I do know, they’re not near signing him. He walks. Lindholm walks. Okay, so now who’re your, who’s your third line heart?”
Taylor: “Guess what?”
Dhaliwal: “What?”
Taylor: “they’ve obtained different gamers who can play heart. Okay, together with, if you happen to look again in his profession, Dakota Joshua. He has previously, I don’t understand how I’d work right here. However that’s that’s a chance.”
Henderson: “That is, that is unsigned and it’s too unhealthy as a result of it’s actually good. The Canucks additionally dumped Kuzmenko’ss $5 million for subsequent yr, which is a large a part of this commerce. That’s, that’s what the folks …”
Dhaliwal: “However they added Lindholm’s, similar factor.”
Henderson: “No, no, however you understand, what do you imply? Lindholm’s a pending UFA.”
Taylor: “Subsequent yr received’t be an element.”
Henderson: “However subsequent yr…”
Dhaliwal: “Yeah subsequent yr, removed that.”
Henderson: “However subsequent yr, now you needed to give one thing to permit Calgary to take that cash, proper? That you simply have been shedding on that a part of the commerce. That was a unfavourable a part of the commerce that Canucks have been presenting.”
Taylor: “However simply the hockey a part of it…”
Henderson “The hockey half.”
Taylor: “The hockey a part of it doesn’t look good proper now.”
Dhaliwal: “It doesn’t look good. And whenever you cough up a first-round choose and prospects, you need a difference-maker? He hasn’t been a difference-maker. He hasn’t been.”
Taylor: “I don’t know if you happen to agree with us or not. I can’t, I can’t actually inform.”
Dhaliwal: “I’m simply telling you if you happen to get the man low cost, carry them again. When you don’t, see ya later. Audios. Goodbye.”
Taylor: “Not costly different different gamers.”
Dhaliwal: “Coughing up a first-round choose and prospects for a man who has not been a difference-maker, he needs to be within the top-six Don after you gave up that a lot, not within the third line.”
Taylor: “Imply simply drive him in there?”
Dhaliwal: “However I’m positive that Canucks thought once they obtained him, did you suppose they have been gonna give all that up for a third-line man, Don? No, they, you bought, you need to man within the top-six whose a distinction maker. He hasn’t been one.”
Ought to the #Canucks contemplate re-signing Elias Lindholm?
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— Donnie & Dhali (@DonnieandDhali) April 10, 2024