Sekeres and Value: Frank Seravalli speaking with Matt Sekeres and Blake Value about pending RFA defenseman Filip Hronek. If it takes $8 million a season to get Hronek prolonged, the Canucks ought to do it. It make appear to some like an overpayment now, however in a number of years it gained’t look like one with the wage cap going up.
** NHLRumors.com transcription
Sekeres: “For those who’re in search of one participant who key the turnaround from horrible Canucks season final yr, to superb Canucks season this yr, it’s Filip Hronek.”
Seravalli: “That’s, that’s the purpose I made yesterday with Quads was…”
Sekeres; “Unequivocally.”
Serevalli: “(Elias) Pettersson’s right here. (Quinn) Hughes’ right here. Demko is right here. I do know the teaching change has been an enormous a part of it and you can make the feedback in regards to the bottom-six, and the penalty kill and the opposite couple, you understand, defenseman that they introduced in, in (Ian) Cole and (Cason) Soucy has been good.
However the one thread to me to all of that it has been you understand, the Canucks had an engine, to me Hronek has been the jet gasoline to then have that take off.”
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Sekeres: “Proper. I imply, if you wish to argue wholesome Demko, sure, completely.”
Seravalli: “Positive.”
Sekeres: “However in fact, what group with out wholesome goaltending is, you understand, capable of play at this stage? However the one addition to the group this yr that has actually made them go, has been Hronek.”
Value: “How about this guys? I imply, I’ll be the primary to say, didn’t love the J.T. Miller contract when it was signed. He’s most likely going to be 100 level participant this yr, which suggests probably…”
Seravalli: “Once more, by the way in which.”
Value: “Yeah, probably. the following two years are most likely very worthwhile seasons for J.T. Miller when it comes to points-per-game. Perhaps you’ve obtained a few seasons on the finish of this contract that you simply want weren’t there however at $8 million in 28-29, who is aware of what the caps at? However you understand, that might be fairly palatable.
May we make the argument for a man that’s youthful, a lot youthful, in, in Filip Hronek that you simply’re paying, for those who pay him eight now, like how quickly till you don’t actually care about that 8 million?
Like is the is the cap going to be going up at such a charge right here the place $8 thousands and thousands fairly doable for a quantity two, quantity three man in your group?”
Seravalli: “Simply again of the serviette math, 28-29, the cap must be someplace between $120 and $125 million bucks.”
Value: “Which you understand, $8 million is nothing at that time.”
Serevalli: “Proper. So I’d say for proper now, like let’s simply say function below the hypothetical that, let’s say this lands at eight (years) instances $8 (million per). And it’s, it’s a spot the place participant might be fairly glad. Staff might be grumbling a bit bit. Fan base might be grumbling a bit bit.
The subsequent few years when you’re in your aggressive window, wish to me, it’s manner higher to have the identified commodity that you understand works versus having to exit and discover it once more.
Sekeres: “Completely.”
Serevalli: “And I believe the longer it goes on for a man that may, you understand, in a number of years will nonetheless be sub 30 (years previous). Like I’m it saying there’s actually no threat on the a part of the Canucks. Like let’s say you get three years in or 4 years in and also you need to change issues up. That’s not going to be a contract you’re going to have a difficulty shifting.
I imply, look, simply have a look at his, from a pure counting stats foundation going again to when he first obtained into the league. I mentioned this once I first joined you guys and talked about Hronek and I mentioned that this contract could be a quantity that began with an eight, and everybody laughed at me. He’s a half-a-point-per-game defenseman. And the right-shot man.
Like that’s the, that’s going to be the going charge, and I don’t see that quantity falling off a cliff. Like his manufacturing isn’t all of a sudden going to finish. And you may make no matter feedback you need about driving his personal pair or no matter it’s. You don’t want him to drive his personal pair. You’ve obtained possibly among the finest pairs in the complete league if not the most effective. What extra do you want?
Serekes: “I imply, and he’s an all-situations defenseman too. Like you understand he’s on the market in each vital conditions. He’s the quantity three penalty killer on protection. He can play energy play, simply doesn’t to the extent due to Hughes.
So that you don’t suppose eight by eight…”
Seravalli: “By, by the way in which, so like why dick round with this, to only be simply blunt with my thought course of. So is Quinn Hughes gonna be pissed that he’s making $150,000 greater than him, on the hole?
Value: “I don’t suppose so figuring out that he’s about to be making $14 million a season in a few years.”
Seravalli: “That’s my level. Like what’s 100, first off, what’s a $150,000?
Serekes: “Nothing. Completely nothing.
Seravalli: “Is it, is it the optics of you could be King Kong on the cap that you simply really feel like simply from a interval, I don’t, I’ve by no means gotten that sense from Quinn Hughes. Do you guys suppose that that’s one thing he would care about?”
Value: “No once more, and that is the flex contract of Filip Hronek. It’s not getting any higher. He’s not signing one other deal, Filip Hronek. And Hughes …”
Seravalli: “That is it. That is his solely change.
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Value: “Hughes is aware of my model of that contract goes to be twice that contract,
Serekes: “Proper.”
Seravalli: “He, I didn’t look at this time however I believe his profession earnings are $9 million. Like that is it. That is his big-boy deal. Quinn Hughes has already gotten lifetime safety. The subsequent one is gonna simply be, you understand, how large your home and your fourth home are, and your boat are.
Serekes: “Proper. Precisely.”
Seravalli: “I can’t think about him getting in the way in which, is my level. And so if Quinn Hughes just isn’t getting in the way in which, why would the Canucks stick their nostril out and get it out of joint over a seemingly what, a rule, simply an arbitrary rule to make a rule? That’s why I don’t, I don’t suppose it has any benefit.”
Serekes: “Proper. So that you suppose 8 (years) by $8 (million) will get it finished with Hronek?
Serevalli: “I don’t know. However that, that, I would appear to suppose so.”
Value: “Am I quibbling by saying eight (million) by seven (years)? Like do you suppose that further yr means one thing to Allan Walsh?”
Serevalli: “I don’t know, I, I’d suppose that the place he’s at he’d need to get the eighth yr. Wouldn’t, I imply, I’d need to get the eighth yr. By that time, he’d be what, 34 (years previous), like 33, 34.
Value: “Nonetheless most likely fairly, fairly respectable.:
Seravalli: “Yeah, however you’re most likely not pulling in $8 (million). You’re most likely, the following one may seem like a $4 or $5 (million).
Value: “Proper, proper. Yeah.”
Seravalli: “So that you’d most likely need that eighth yr to maximise your earnings. However that’s how I’d consider it.
Value: “I’m wondering if that’s a spot to avoid wasting dough with, if they will negotiate on that quantity then, somewhat than the eight.
.@frank_seravalli on why Hronek at $8M just isn’t an overpayment for the #Canucks with the cap going up:
“Demko is right here, I do know the teaching change…the roster has modified…the Canucks had an engine and to me, Hronek was the jet gasoline that allowed them to take off…$8 million in… pic.twitter.com/73GV0KOofc
— Sekeres and Value (@sekeresandprice) March 24, 2024